And so on. At the time of her death, Shanann had been 15 weeks pregnant (via MEAWW). DENVER (CBS4) The district attorney in Weld County says the autopsy reports are complete for Shanann Watts and her two young daughters found dead at . They say the questions had nothing to do with infidelity so it doesnt matter whether or not he had an affair. She had the girls in daycare full time to the tune of $500 a week, spending $28k a year per official documents, and this HAD to be a financial strain. The sheets were off because he used the fitted sheet to wrap her body in because of its rounded corners, he said this to the investigators. Everything else was secondary or something to be minimized so she could focus on her addiction. He cared more about his 2 month relationship with that home wrecker then the 6 years he spent with his wife and the lives of his children. Powered by. You can argue till the cows come home and all you end up arguing is that she could be in any non-specific place in the house. Infuriating! Also, the fact that he did not want her to come to Colorado with his dad so that maybe she would not be questioned? Death is simply not pretty, nor was it meant to be. The FBI agents had already profiled that the wife had been strangled because theyd been through the house with luminol & found no blood splatter, and because children were involved also believed smothering was involved. Does this mean Bella was still alive when she was dropped into the tank? Usually when theres a fight while strangulation is occurring the perpetrator uses so much force the hyoid bone is broken; shannans was not. The second dog also had a housetraining mishap in the basement. Once youre already unconscious from sleep & then start losing air from throttling it would make you very disoriented & hard to come to fully conscious state & fight back before losing total consciousness again. People with OCD can have obsessions related to a wide variety of things, including losing control, hurting others, unwanted sexual thoughts, and many more. My youngest daughter slept in a bra as well. Rude person. in any case, who the hell trusts anything coming from Chris Watts? Theyd quietly suffocate no violent confrontation, very peaceful. Do you think she was murdered elsewhere? So wheres the problem here? Take Jodi Arias she lured him into a shower and made sure she was armed and he was naked, vulnerable and unsuspecting when she attacked him. Not sure if it is true, but I heard that the GF (Nicole) and his parents are both doing book deals! It was on an automatic answering thing. I am very new to this case, only a couple of months ago, end of November 2020 to be precise. Chris thought that she was dead? If someone begins to strangle you while youre in a deep sleep and laying down you may never regain enough consciousness to fight back. Meaning there should be no oil in her stomach just like cece. It was already reported that Shannan evacuated her bowels when dying and that is why he took the sheet off, He told police that. I take comfort in that, Bella and Cee Cee likely had no idea it was their dad doing that to them, but he wouldve wanted Shanann to know he was ending her life. Was the examiner not able to determine the order in which Shanann and the girls were killed? Something that might help with perspective is this financial article in which a wife writes in for advice, because her husband has started sending hundreds of thousands of dollars to a cult: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-woman-made-a-life-changing-decision-after-her-husband-gave-600000-to-a-cult-2017-07-10 . And the fact that theyd had a bankruptcy in 2015 apparently hadnt helped her wise up at all. The two girls, Bella and Celestes bodies also had same, was noted in autopsy reports is from decomp process. Ive been sleeping in my bra during my pregnancy- because my chest hurts all the time and taking it off even to shower is extremely uncomfortable. You can pooh-pooh OCD if its not you, but OCD especially for someone with a chronic disease tends to be quite significant. Youre obviously trolling! Not a chance she would have run the risk of waking up the children by going into their rooms she knew theyd be fine as shed often said Chris was a good Dad. I am 57, I weigh 132 lbs.. .,,, I had my husband straddle my chest and pin my arms down and Im telling you right now, I could not move. The womans home was spotless & there was a place for everything & everything was labeled! Typo. Heres another: https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2017-11-23-susan-rohde-sustained-too-many-injuries-to-hang-herself-pathologist/. Or carbon monoxide poisoning [something a former mechanic and oil worker would know about]. The police reports contain several photos showing the oil drums where the childrens bodies were found. Id recite a few examples from case law but I dont think youre really here to discuss anything. Also she seemed to have every intention to work things out while he was having an affair and according to him getting divorced. Since its clear CW is a flagrant coward, I am finding it hard to imagine him having enough courage to have looked at her eye to eye while he was strangling her. I find it odd that Shanann was wearing a bra when found. We know that she went to her office and attempted to order haircare products, and in the welfare check footage you can clearly see a large dark blanket on the sofa, and two small pink chair beds by the side of the sofa. He knew that he would be at those oil tanks by himself that morning. The reports show that the bodies of both little girls were placed inside oil containers with a narrow opening that was only 8 inches in diameter. Police reportsPhotos of the Watts family in the police reports. She was organized but that is not OCD, same as me. x, Ive said this before. OCD can be like gluten-sensitivities. What was Shananns cause of death? Also just because she was strangled and they were suffocated doesnt mean dirt. As far as OCD I dont believe she had it This shows how little insight you have into this case, and into who Shanan was in particular. Do you think her phone ended up where it was because thats how and where it left her hand? CW said he was not a monster because in his opinion he killed them humanely. Nick, have any of her docs said she had clinical OCD? Its more likely the complete opposite. They were smothered. Bellas covers were pulled off and she was just lying in bed. Yes, Posted Youtube videos shows that her office was messy. I have read through this entire post and this is the one question that I dont think is getting enough attention. Between the two preferences, a lot of interaction was visible. Chris Watts is a narcissistic cold blooded killer of children and their mother. Usually when suffocation happens, its not only quiet but you dont see the victims face, while strangulation you see it all. I bet there was no conversation. as former sheriffs deputy, mid 70s, (When females allowed on patrol) I am not saying he touched the purse. Even with Bella, no screaming brain said , this is your Bella!! I did. He resented how close they all were and was sadistic enough to hurt her. They are finger prints from his hands. Wanting to know why is simply that wanting to know why. Netflix viewers believe a murdered wife sent police a clue from beyond the grave after spotting something "creepy" in the doco about her brutal murder at the hands of her cheating husband. The paper bags are put on the hands to transport the victim after they are found deceased as to not contaminate any potential evidence around the hands, such as DNA evidence under the fingernails. The phone was found in the cushions of that upstairs couch, not the downstairs couch. Seriously? Exhausting and she was pregnant. But hed then be a full time father leaving him not much time to galavant with NK except when a babysitter came. He said it took minutes, the police reports say. (blood chokes, carotid restraints or sleeper holds) The ethanol levels are perplexing though; even in decomposition they are rarely above .07. I cant believe the police let them stay in there. False nails like ShanAnn was so fond of wearing dont scratch skin as effectively as natural nails do they arent as sharp. I tend to have the feeling ; with the way the justice system and penalties are enforced in the US .that he is probably in solitary confinement for his own protection!! If we can believe his scenario, that also sounds like Shannn wasnt trying to kill her daughter like Chris thought, which meant neither of them killed her which leaves someone who must have entered the home by using an access code that wouldnt trip the alarm and I wonder who that might be ((cough*mistress*cough)) if Chriss scenario is correct of course! I slept in my bras with all four of my pregnancies. So what are you saying? Every detail was wrong for them as a couple and as a family. First of all- the digestive tract is long. Have you interviewed anyone for your books? Its hard to fight a larger man off of you when held down, in fear of dying and trying to gasp for air. It takes 2-4 min for a person to die from smothering or strangulation. Shan'ann Watts tells her husband: "I don't want a video of you" while recording her children Chris Watts Case: What would Sherlock Holmes Do? Makes sense since Shanann has zero marks indicating a struggle, I thought from the jump that she wasnt even awake when he killed her. He kills both witnesses and the rest is history. I am doing a project for school and i would like to have a look at them. Seemed to me like she kept everything clean that you could see. Lastly, he lies constantly to the police, why is this self serving story all of the sudden believable? How was she about her childrens allergies? Get a life and quit trashing innocent victims. Ive not discussed it here though, its in the books. With that much free time in the day, she could have gotten a part-time job and brought home real money. I feel like maybe she did meet them. On the police cams you can just see hi. Asshole should have never been presented and damn plea deal. didnt attempt it herself. Considering the size of shananns house before they moved there. Even if they appear to be dead or as the agent in this case said decapitated you call & plead for someway to help fix them. Meredith Kercher is a famous example. This sick bastard should have done everyone a favor and took his own life. Unless you count her phone. Kaye, this sounds plausible. The cadaver dogs noted no presence of bodies in the basement however. And then you test it in various scenarios. I think he came up behind her as she was getting ready for bed, after her long trip, and he put her in a choke hold then. Shanann returned home from a business trip on the early morning hours of August 13, 2019. I remember reading as part of the Scott Peterson murder investigation that they found traces of fecal matter in the carpet (which had been cleaned) in a downstairs hallway, I think, but I just looked around and couldnt find anything, so I must have mis-remembered. I wrote a book that tried to integrate information, not just throw the information in the air and shrug. COFFIN BIRTH OF BABY NICO!-Please read description TY Scrub The Surface 8.27K subscribers Subscribe 13K Share 1.5M views 4 years ago THIS VIDEO IS. I once witnessed where someone used Tequila in a hookah instead of water. Watts at first tried to claim that when he told Shanann he wanted a separation, she killed their daughters. He couldnt get into anyways so I dont know what the plan was gonna be after. Parents reach for any hope, even if the child is blue, even if rigor has set in, theyre desperate and people who are not emotionally involved as them, professionals,have to tell them its too late. Have they watched something? Esophageal strictures are typically treated with a procedure called esophageal dilation, during which a physician uses a small balloon to stretch open the scar tissue causing the narrowing in the esophagus. She is OCD and very ritualistic in nature. I also think the MLM biz attracts people that are lost, and need to be directed and consumed by something. Under anaerobic conditions (absence of free oxygen) acids such as lactic acid, acetic acid and butyric acid are produced during decomposition, as well as a number of alcohols which include butyl alcohol, ethyl alcohol and acetone. For starters there was only ONE cadaver dog (the Lab) who indicated only TWO places in the house the spot in the basement between the stairs and the heating system fan, and by the rear sliding door! Carol, I think you are absolutely spot on, and on all points too. Even in this scenario, you would expect fingernails in his forearm if Watts managed a rapid 10 second kill. Gallstones form over a period of time, raised hormone levels in pregnancy contribute to them. I dont know her daily habits, but i use mine as an alarm. Had he planned this out, he would have killed them earlier, left in the middle of the night, in the dark, to dispose of the bodiesnot as the sun was coming up as seen in the tape. No evidence of cake or undigested dinner. He found her phone between the cushions. Part of the evidence that he put into the trash. Bella was face up, so oil had oozed into her stomach and lungs. It drives me batty to see little Cece kick her legs in joy in the videos and to know they were stopped forever. Where was all the money from that house? He ran into Ceces bedroom and got on top of Shannan. @Lisa oh hell, if your description is an accurate one for a diagnosis of OCD, then I reckon I have it too! Could Bellas mouth injuries have occurred postmortem when he shoved her through the hatch? Ugh. Mommys earned this. 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