02/02/2020 14:10. - The junior school that is connected with a senior school will not be as good as prep schools at preparing children for getting entrance at 11+ to different senior schools. However, there are a couple of factors to consider: - The academically strong child would get into the senior school in any case. Dont miss your best career move. But there must be some roffers/fettes who went to one of them? U know you're more Stuckey than Edward Lewis, right? for what its worth I had a great time there but it was a long time ago. Find out more. Anecdotally, based on the girls I knew at JAGS, it was really really academically pressured, all the way through. However, still considering JAGS as apparently its supposed to be academically much better than Alleyns. Id want my daughter to speak up even if there are boys present instead of flourishing only in an all girls environment. Alleyn's from recollection is maybe better known, I recall good results in league tables. I know many private schools have changed radically over last 5-15 years. So we revisited. They did like to enjoy themselves. Alleyns - wasn't so sold on the head but the new Lower school building and the great sports provision had impressed us. While Alleyns is theoretically more selective JAGs outperforms Alleyns academically most years though there isn't much in it. How long does it take to get there? I am aware of colleagues of mine that have had the latter occur (not at JAGS or Alleyn's but comparable London/Surrey indies). It is proven by studies that girls do better in single sex schools. Send her to a state primary, then a decent rural boarding school. as better by other schools/universities if want to move on (despite league tables). Some do, some don't. The question really is whether to roll up in a Rivian or Lucid. very tough to get in too so PERCEIVED (she says in reality both are great!) I like JAGS but wouldnt send my child to a single sex school so Alleyns. Poor old Ebitda couldn't even get to first base with the Jags gals Live nearby. Relative taught at one and relatives pupils at both. Chances of bursaries / scholarships at 11? jags gets more into oxbridge. I also have a preference for co-ed. The single sex point noted by Heffalump is the most obvious one. I know Jags and Alleyns do prepare for the 11+ for some extent but I thought part of the appeal was that they dont have to focus on it quite so much as the children either have a guaranteed place (Alleyns) or just need to pass the exam (Jags) rather than coming in the top tranche? I went to Alleyns, though not the junior school. Might the reason for children not getting into the other school in year 6 be that they are not doing as much preparation, or indeed not being prepared by the school as intensely for the 11+ compared to a prep school, as they already have a place at their existing school? Alleyn's if you have the choice. probably comparable on other stuff. Where the senior school is highly academic (definitely JAGS, to a slightly lesser extent Alleyn's) the parents of a quite academically weak child will generally have it "suggested" to them to move their child at 11 or earlier. Mumsnet carries some affiliate marketing links, so if you buy something through our posts, we may get a small share of the sale (more details here), lots of focus on being well rounded, confident and self assured, children are instilled with independence and leadership qualities early on, academic but also focuses on other aspects such as presenting well, wit and social spark (her words! They were known as jags slags . To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account. On balance, I'd go for Alleyn's because I prefer the co-ed aspect. I live locally and I don't think Alleyns is perceived to be much better at all. To verify your identity, please type what you see in the box above. Obviously not four year olds . To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account. Jags - we liked the new head. the head at JAGS was an excellent teacher - she taught chemistry at my old school and everyone (even those who struggled) went up two grades. More details here. The consequence is that if you are looking for your child to move at 11+ you may find you have to do a lot of work with them outside of school for them to be competitive, compared with say sending them to Thomas's or similar pre-prep and prep. Jagz ascot? TLT is seeking a conveyancing technical support officer in Bristol. There is a senior exec teacher I know personally at JAGS who I would never want to teach my daughters. There are some really helpful comments up there, so thank you. Single sex schools tend to be a bit more diverse as some minorities prefer not to have their daughters taught alongside boys. 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Have your daughter attend the pre-selection morning, and how quick did you get the response? ), facilities are amazing (for both junior and secondary) and equal focus on academia as sport/art/performance, high end lunch provision and after school clubs. Neither. Think JC went to Dulwich and Nigel Farridge stole his tuck shop loot. I did not prescribe to that view, most did however . I attended a school very near there . The children that benefit most from a 4-18 school are those in the middle of the range. The children that benefit most from a 4-18 school are those in the middle of the range. Any reviews? The one thats further from the toxic cesspool that is Dulwich College. Glad to see its not the predominant view on here. Of course, difficult to know at age four where a child will be academically. Sending your child to a junior that is connected with a senior school gives a certain level of certainty that they will go straight through into the senior school. JAGs has 35 places at 4+ and Alleyns has 9 for girls at 4+. Never quite felt that way across the road. Hello All. Everyone's view might be out of date. (at least till they reach puberty and one would hope they have educational incentive enough by then.) so all girls schools are good if you can afford. Do you also know if the tests are adaptive? I think the ebitda bot may need reprogramming. Find adults who went to JAGS v insular and cliquey cf Alleyn's. she was the selling point of the school at the time tho she did have favourites, https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/primary/3807861-Jags-or-Alleyns-junior-sch, so far as I am aware they are both very good schools and I'm sure she'll be fine at either, probably really depends on whether you want her at a single sex school or not. Ontier is looking for a paralegal to join its litigation team in London. The same 100 girls that apply to Alleyns apply to JAGs. What is the public transport like? Receive approaches from top law firms and in-house employers when they want someone just like you. Mumsnet carries some affiliate marketing links, so if you buy something through our posts, we may get a small share of the sale (more details here). Got well pissed up there with a niece a few years back. Don't forget the logistical factors - where do you live in relation to each school? Ive heard all the arguments in favour of single sex but still think co-ed is better as thats how it is in the grown up world. The open day we went to was great and the girls we met were lovely. I am aware of colleagues of mine that have had the latter occur (not at JAGS or Alleyn's but comparable London/Surrey indies). Of course, difficult to know at age four where a child will be academically. 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